Meeting Details

Meeting Summary
Licensing Committee
10 Jun 2020 - 18:00 to 20:00
Occurred

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  • Documents
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  • Visitors
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Documents

Agenda

Part A
1 Appointment of Chairman
To appoint a Chairman for the forthcoming Municipal Year
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RESOLVED (UNANIMOUSLY) that Councillor Harris be elected Chairman for the forthcoming Municipal Year. 
2 Appointment of Deputy Chairman
To appoint a Deputy Chairman for the forthcoming Municipal Year
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RESOLVED (UNANIMOUSLY) that Councillor Hogg be elected Deputy Chairman for the forthcoming Municipal Year. 
3 Welcome and Announcements (Virtual Meetings)
The Chairman will welcome members of the public and Councillors to the meeting and remind those participating to mute their microphones when not talking. The Chairman will invite all Councillors and Officers participating in the meeting to introduce themselves. The Chairman will, at regular intervals, ask Councillors to indicate if they wish to speak or ask a question and Councillors will be invited to speak in turn by the Chairman. A vote on each item of business will be taken by roll call of each Councillor and the outcome of each vote will be confirmed by the Democratic Services Officer.
4 Substitutions
Councillors will be asked to say if they are attending on behalf of a Committee member who is absent.
5 Urgent Items
The Chairman will announce if there is any item not on the published agenda which will be considered because it is urgent and will explain the reason for the urgency.
6 Declarations of Interest
Councillors will be asked to say if there are any items on the agenda about which they have a disclosable pecuniary interest which would prevent them from participating in any discussion of the item or participating in any vote upon the item, or any other pecuniary interest or non-pecuniary interest.
7 Minutes of Previous Meeting
The Councillors will be invited to confirm that the minutes of the meeting held on 22 January 2020 are a correct record.
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RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting held on 22 January 2020 were confirmed as a correct record.
8 Have Your Say! (Virtual Meetings)
Members of the public may submit one written submission of no more than 500 words for consideration by the meeting which must be submitted online by noon on the working day before the meeting date. The Chairman will read out each submission either at the start of the meeting if it relates to a general matter or immediately before the officer presentation if it relates to an item of business being considered at the meeting.
The Committee will consider a report noting that the consultation period in respect of the proposed CCTV in Licensed Vehicles policy has been extended. 
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Jon Ruder, Licensing, Food and Safety Manager, presented a report on the Draft Scrap Metal Dealers Policy, and assisted the Committee with their discussions. Jon explained that the consultation period for the draft CCTV in Licensed Vehicles Policy, as approved by the Licensing Committee at its meeting on 22 January 2020, had been due to conclude at the end of May, with a report due to be presented to the Committee at the meeting of 10 June 2020. However, due to the ongoing difficulties presented by the Covic-19 pandemic, the consultation period for the draft policy had been extended until 12 June 2020, and the Committee were requested to note this.

RESOLVED that the extension of the consultation period until 12 June 2020 in relation to the draft CCTV in Licensed Vehicles Policy be noted.

The Committee will consider a report detailing the Council’s proposed Scrap Metal Dealers Policy and recommends the approval of the policy following the end of the consultation process during which no representations were received.
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Jon Ruder, Licensing, Food and Safety Manager, presented a report on the Draft Scrap Metal Dealers Policy, and assisted the Committee with their discussions. The report was introduced and Members were advised that the Policy had to be renewed for the next few years, and as such, had been circulated in order that consultation on the contents could take place. Following the end of the consultation period, no responses at all had been received, and the Committee were requested to agree the adoption of the draft policy, and to recommend to Council that if form part of the statutory framework.

Councillor Hogg enquired whether the policy would apply to all persons carrying out relevant activities, or whether some groups would in fact stand outside the policy and instead have to be the subject of a criminal investigation. Jon Ruder explained that no one was treated as ‘standing outside the law’, and confirmed that the rules, and therefore the proposed policy, would apply equally to all, and if a licence was required it would be required regardless of who was conducting the activity. Jon further commented that if people had entered an area and were trading unlawfully, then it would be the job of Colchester Borough Council working in conjunction with the Police to oppose such activity. It was also clarified that responsibility lay with members of the public to ensure that any scrap metal that they disposed of was passed to a properly licensed collector. Jon explained that it was now unlawful to trade scrap metal for cash and he would happily investigate any allegations of wrongdoing whenever he was presented with any evidence of this.

Councillor Harris commented that the legislation governing the licensing of scrap metal dealers had come into force in 2013, and enquired whether it was known how many licences there currently were within Colchester Borough. Jon Ruder explained that there had been a recent audit on the number of licences and that from memory there were between six to eight site licences, and a similar number of collectors licences issued.

Councillor Buston asked whether there were any items in the policy that Officers would like to bring to Members attention that were of particular importance or relevance, in odder that they may be prepared for any questions that might arise on the document in the future. Jon Ruder said that there was nothing that he would highlight in particular in the policy, and stated that the document has been drafted to be as easy to read and user friendly as possible.

Councillor Harris commented that licences lasted for three years, and questioned whether in the light of this the policy would also be reviewed every three years. Jon Ruder confirmed that the policy would be reviewed every three years, and that in the meantime premises were subject to inspections by licensing staff to ensure compliance with their existing licences.

Councillor Moore enquired whether there was any evidence that the new legislation had in fact reduced thefts and other criminal activity? Jon Ruder said that there was evidence that across the country crimes associated with scrap metal dealing had reduced, in no small part to the restrictions placed on the industry which removed the capacity to trade in scrap metal for cash, and required an audit trail to be kept for all items received and sold. Councillor Moore further enquired what was in place to stop stolen metal being exported to the continent, and Jon Ruder explained that despite laws and policies being in place, it was unlikely that this practice could be fully combatted.

Councillor Tim Young referred to the point previously raised by Councillor Hogg, and asked Jon Ruder to confirm whether there was any intelligence that linked specific groups of people to scrap metal crimes. Jon Ruder responded by stating that he paid no attention to whether or not a person he was investigating was a member of any specific group, but instead focussed only on the task at hand. Jon stated that it was irrelevant whether a person under investigation was the member of any particular group of people, as everyone would be investigated in the same manner by him and his team. Councillor Hogg confirmed that all he had been seeking was clarification that the proposed policy would apply to everyone equally, and he was satisfied with the response.

RESOLVED that the Scrap Metal Dealers Policy be approved and recommended to Full Council for adoption as part of the Council’s statutory framework.

The will consider a report setting out the proposed work programme for the forthcoming municipal year.
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Matthew Evans, Democratic Services Officer, introduced the work programme 2019- 2020.

RESOLVED that the contents of the work programme be noted.

12 Exclusion of the Public (not Scrutiny or Executive)
In accordance with Section 100A(4) of the Local Government Act 1972 to exclude the public, including the press, from the meeting so that any items containing exempt information (for example confidential personal, financial or legal advice), in Part B of this agenda (printed on yellow paper) can be decided. (Exempt information is defined in Section 100I and Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972).
Part B

Attendance

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